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An Interview with Author R.M. Tembreull

R.M. Tembreull is an author, an artist, and a twenty-six-year veteran of the U.S. Air Force. His life experience and love of the natural world informs his writing and led to the concept of telling his stories through the eyes of a sentient planet. Fractured State in the Blighted Earth (Atmosphere Press, September 2024) is Raymund’s debut eco-fantasy novel and the first of a nine-book series. Look for him on his website TheBlightedEarth.com, on Instagram and his Amazon author page.


What would you like readers to know about the story you tell in Fractured State?
From my lens, we are currently facing a convergence of extremes — of thought, ideology, emotions, climate, violence, etc. — which present a complex set of asymmetric conditions. One could think of it as a synthetic virus, but at the very least, an affliction challenging human existence. One might say this collection of extremes is humanity’s blight. So, I would ask my readers to ponder the following questions as they read Fractured State in the Blighted Earth: Are homo sapiens not the dominant species? Is it not our duty to address this multi-source affliction on behalf of the planet? If you looked at Earth Mother as one living body as she is described in Fractured State, She is hemorrhaging, and who would be in the best position to staunch the bleeding if not Her most gifted children?

By reading Fractured State you are starting a journey into a fantastical world which largely exists outside our known reality and beyond the limits of human perception. I sincerely hope the journey brings you as much entertainment and enjoyment as it did me in the creation of it. While giving you opportunities to think critically about our world, it challenges, and what you could do to cure the blight!

When you began writing this novel, what did you hope to accomplish?
Fractured State is only the beginning of an epic journey in a series which is currently planned to be nine novels. Book one is very much a stage-setter for a supernatural saga, introducing the reader to a world within a world, establishing a primary story arc, and introducing characters; some of whom will not play major roles until later books. As with all world building endeavors, I hope my story keeps the reader engaged, and I make a plausible case for how we could arrive at a continent on the environmental brink and a once proud nation becoming the “Fractured States of America.” I aspire to accomplish this through an artful blending of real-world events and science-backed facts combined with the actions and influences of powerful supernatural beings and timeless universal entities. Some of the feedback I have received from reputable review agencies since release would suggest I was successful in my goals, but whether I can successfully reach a wider audience (and my stories and messages resonate with readers out there) remains to be seen.

Who are your main characters, and what hurdles are they trying to overcome?
Some of the main (enduring) characters for the series are only introduced in Fractured State because they have expanded roles in the story arcs of future books. I also want to highlight that all the characters (except for the Texas-based ones, e.g., Arden, Daryn, Mack, Komkom, Dóatn, etc.) were either prominently featured or referenced in the stories of my first book (Stories, Legends, and Truths from the Blighted Earth). Here is the “short list” for Fractured State:

  • The Mothman: In general, the Mothmen are an ancient alien race, the Inani, whose existence can be traced back to the early universe. The Mothman reference ties them to Earth lore, but they live on a world on the “dark side” of the universe at the center of the cosmos. The Inani are governed by a technocratic society where citizens are organized into hierarchical task classes. The Inani must consume matter from the living side (our side) of the universe to sustain their way of life.
  • Kieran “Arden” McBride: Arden is a disabled Iraq combat veteran who suffers from Traumatic Brain Injury, among other things. He was homeless for a time until he was taken in by the Daryn, the Archdruid of the Druids of Hearthstone Grove in Austin, Texas. Arden serves as his grove’s protector, and with Daryn’s help, has become aware of and is beginning to understand and develop the special abilities of the “Hate-eater.”
  • Ithilbor Moonfist, the North American Guardian Spirit: Guardian Spirits occupy the highest rung on the Hierarchy of Sentience, short of Earth Mother Herself. Guardians are aligned with the Epoch in which they serve. Epochs are distinguished by the planet’s dominant species, and Guardian Spirits are created to blend in with and live among them. The current Epoch is that of humankind.
  • Nilch’i, Sentient Wind: Nilch’i is Chaos’s top field general and commander of the Formless Column of his army, the En’troop-EE (“EE” = Effector Elements). Though Chaos is a powerful entity whose existence can be traced back to the beginning of the universe, he cannot directly impact any world. Thus, he must work through the sentient denizens of a planet to achieve his destructive aims by corrupting them to his cause. Chaos indirectly wields the wind and fire elements through his Corrupted Formless.
  • STEM, the displaced Earth Elemental: STEM is an elemental who suffered a “Dislocation event,” which typically happens when an elemental is transiting their meta’en absent form. Their spirit essence becomes entrapped in some variant of the Manmade; such as urban environments that are constructed from a host of unnatural, human-manipulated materials, or in STEM’s case: the Internet.
  • Komkom “Kwin” Akwini, the Tree Spirit: Komkom is a subspecies of Earth Elemental, who has chosen to permanently manifest within a tree form. Kwin’s assigned protectorate encompasses the whole of Sam Houston National Forest in Texas. After Texas violently secedes from the Union and begins to hunt down non-Christians, Kwin provides sanctuary to the druids of Hearthstone Grove.
  • Parim, Earth Elemental: Parim, a subspecies of Earth Elements known as a Sand Spirit, is assigned to protect what humans call the United States’ desert Southwest. Because the Guardian Spirit Ithilbor is fully engaged in dealing with Formless-driven wildfires up and down the West Coast, he has charged Parim with organizing a holding action in the Southwest to blunt any aggression and violent expansion activities by the seditionist “Lone Star Nation.” Parim and Nilch’i are long time nemeses.

What is the main setting of the book? Why is it the perfect place for your story to unfold?
To set the table for the storyline, I needed the right set of conditions for Chaos to exploit in His relentless pursuit to initiate the Great Cascade and bring about the Discordant on Earth. In the United States, the makings of environmental catastrophe (extended drought, wildfires, natural habitat erosion, human over-settlement, etc.) have been present and worsening for some time with climate change driving more destructive weather extremes. Additionally, the novel was written during the trials and tribulations we all endured during the COVID pandemic and the unfortunate events in the aftermath of the 2020 Presidential election. When coupled with all the global threats, conflict, and uncertainty which have emerged in the last few years, along with their corresponding negative effects on our collective state of mind and emotions, the real world itself provided all the drama and necessary ingredients for ruinous potential on a continental scale. The final step was to inject the enduring struggle of otherworldly entities and supernatural beings into volatile mix—and viola—I had everything needed to create the “fractured state.” During the writing process, very little changed in the overall national setting, but local places, encounters, and characters within Arden’s story arc evolved as I achieved greater fidelity on the Druid’s supernatural powers and the overall impact I wanted him to have in the series. These considerations drove the choice of settings and locations within the state of Texas.

What was the most difficult aspect of world building for the Blighted Earth series?
The most difficult aspect of world building was developing the rule set which governs my fictional world. Without them, the story has no guideposts or structure, and even fantasy needs rules. If anything can happen without any corresponding cause-and-effect or impact, then nothing really matters. That makes it hard for a reader to become invested in the story and the characters. In Fractured State, the Earth-born characters all possess an immortal spirit essence or soul gifted to them by a sentient world (Earth Mother). Consequently, all life on earth progresses through many lives, and ideally, each of us can earn the privilege of becoming a High Sentient in service of the Natural Order by living well during our life chain. I even had to develop my own universe creation myth to explain everything from the origin of the alien race; to how life in our galaxy came to exist; to how the cosmos is structured and functions, etc. Fortunately, for me, the heavy lift for my world building and character-type development occurred in the writing of my first collection of stories. So, Fractured State, for the most part, just had to follow the rule set and employ character types that were already developed.

How did the book come together?
Strangely enough, other books in the series were written first. In fact, the first four books were originally intended to be one book, but it would have been far too long (especially for publishing as an indie author, where you must do a lot of the work yourself). Most of the formative writing happened during the lockdown associated with the COVID Pandemic in 2020. Fractured State was primarily written after the drafts for Books 2-4 were finished.

In terms of project timelines, it probably took about six months for the first draft. I signed a contract with Atmosphere Press in July 2023. After developmental editing, proof editing, interior and cover design, and pre-release promotion work (with multiple reviews/edits in between), the book was released on September 1, 2024. So, in total, I estimate the whole project took over a year and half, excluding gaps associated with work obligations and other projects.

What was your favorite part of putting this project together?
I think my favorite part of this or any other writing project is the beginning: the process of initial, raw creation when you have a concept and need to add the literary “meat on the bone” from idea to actual story. When I am in that creative flow, ideas can come from anywhere, at any time. I have lost more than my fair share of genius thoughts, so I always carry a notepad or some way to capture story ideas, potential research sources, etc. I just love being in the flow. I sometimes get lost “in there” for a couple hours and come out on the other end with 10-15 rough draft pages of potential greatness. Few things in this world drive you to be present in the moment inside your head like writing!

Explain what eco-fantasy is and why Fractured State fits in this genre.
Eco-fantasy, like any good fantasy, involves intricate world building but the created world does not involve one that is separate and distinct from our own. In achieving this, eco-fantasy authors must look inward vice outward. However, because this genre has ecological underpinnings, the world is centered in the natural world even though it involves supernatural forces and beings. Technically, I would describe eco-fantasy as speculative fiction which melds dystopian climate-change, the supernatural, and mythology and folklore to create a world within our earthly world. Finally, on a more serious note, eco-fantasy also seeks to highlight and engage readers to think critically about global challenges in the interests of preserving our planet through maintaining healthy biodiversity and a balanced relationship with nature. When assessed against this criteria, Fractured State in the Blighted Earth exemplifies the very definition of this new genre.

Your 2023 book Stories, Legends, and Truths from the Blighted Earth is a collection of short stories from the same universe as your 2024 novel. What were you trying to accomplish with these stories, and should readers read this book alongside (or before) the novel?
My 2023 story collection progressively knits together the world of the Fractured State with stories that feature everything from a universe creation myth to stories revealing the different character types to how the supernatural world imbedded within our own works. Every world-building exercise needs to establish a set of rules that governs the world. The story collection accomplishes this complex task by unveiling the hidden world through presented artifacts which are intended to draw the reader in. Stories, Legends, and Truths is a diverse collection in which there is something for everyone regardless of preferred genre. Reading the collection first will provide additional insight and enrich the experience of reading Fractured State, but the novel was designed to stand alone.

Tell us about your writing process and/or your writing routine.
I can say I am most productively creative in the morning so that is when I try to carve out time for “real” — initial draft — kind of wring. Ideas seem to flow the best then; probably because I have not allowed myself to get bogged down with the day’s tasks and stressors. I reserve later parts of the day for more tedious activities, like reviewing/editing manuscripts, working on promotions activities, updating websites, etc. I typically work on illustrations and social media posts at night, because I can work on that stuff while the TV is on, etc. I still work full-time, so I must work all this in around my professional obligations.

Do you have a message or a theme that recurs in your writing?
I explore several themes in Fractured State, and to me, some of the more important ones are: human belief systems and the huge impacts they have had on the environment and biodiversity of world; adverse impacts of our technology; rise of incivility in human civilization; storytelling being co-opted to insidious ends; and the process of radicalization and the rising threat of ‘homegrown’ violent extremists to our American democracy.

What writing projects are you working on now?
I am working on the second book of the series, Long Leg from the Blighted Earth, which will unveil a new story arc and more amazing characters. The Long Leg manuscript is completely knitted together, and I am about 50 percent complete on what I call a fine editing run. Like Fractured State, my second novel will also be illustrated so I am concurrently working on the artwork as well. I plan to have the book published in late 2025. I am also working on a heavily illustrated novella entitled Green Girl that follows a character who was introduced in my story collection. However, the novella has been set aside for now so I can focus on getting Long Leg finalized and handed off to my publisher. Besides the art for books, I am always working on content for my website, Instagram posts, etc. Additionally, some of my art will be featured in an anthology published in early 2025 through the Armed Services Arts Partnership.

Is there anything else you’d like readers to know?
Many of the themes of Fractured State may seem daunting, even overwhelming, because they are tied to daunting and overwhelming threats and challenges that we face in our world today: climate change, global warming, the rise of incivility and intolerance, and the fall of truth. However, I want readers to understand that the concerning “state of things” did not happen overnight. It happened over years, decades, and centuries, and it was the result of individual choices. Making the right choices, such as changing our imbalanced relationship with nature and starting the movements that convince others to do the same, are what is going to get us back on a good path and heal our world.

My perfect reader is open-minded and not stuck to one genre. They love good nature-centered, speculative fiction with intricate world building that is rooted in real events, places, and people. They love surprising and unique characters and want to be entertained as much as they want to be challenged to think critically.


KLWagoner150_2KL Wagoner loves creating worlds of fantasy and science fiction. Her current work in progress is The Last Bonekeeper fantasy trilogy and short stories in the same universe. A member of SouthWest Writers since 2006, Kat has worked as the organization’s secretary, newsletter editor, website manager, and author interview coordinator. Kat is also a veteran, a martial art student, and a grandmother. Visit her at klwagoner.com.




Author Update: Paula Paul

Paula Paul is the award-winning author of over thirty novels including historical fiction, contemporary women’s fiction, and the Alexandra Gladstone mystery series. Her latest fiction release, The Last of the Baileys (March 2023), was inspired by her mother’s colorful family and the boarding house they ran. Look for Paula on her website PaulaPaul.net and on Facebook. You’ll find many of her books on her main Amazon author page, but The Last of the Baileys is available on Amazon here. Read more about Paula and her work in the 2016 interview for SouthWest Writers.


Please tell us about The Last of the Baileys, who are your main characters and where does the story take place?
The Last of the Baileys is set in a small town in West Texas called Anton, where my mother grew up, and in Lubbock, Texas, the largest city in the area. Trudy Bailey Walters is the main character, along with Adam Bailey who claims to be the descendant of a Bailey family slave.

Is Trudy Bailey Walters based on an actual person, or an amalgamation of people?
Trudy is an amalgamation of two of my great aunts who were the daughters of John and Julia Bailey, my great grandparents, who built and ran the boarding house in Anton where most of the story takes place.

What was the inspiration for The Last of the Baileys?
The inspiration for the story came from my memories of the old boarding house and of my mother’s colorful family, the Baileys. I brought Marta Romandino, an undocumented woman, into the story because of my interest in the plight of immigrants coming to the U.S.

How is this book different from your previous novels?
This book is different from my earlier books because it is not genre fiction. I have written mysteries and romance novels as well as children’s books. I have long wanted to write general fiction, however, and The Last of the Baileys is one of my attempts at doing that.

Of all the books you’ve written, were there any that posed more challenges than others?
As for the most challenging books I have written, the general fiction or literary fiction books have been more challenging than genre fiction because the plot is not so predictable. Also, I have tried, over the years, to add more depth to characters and to develop a better writing style. Both of those endeavors are challenging.

With so many books under your belt, do you ever find yourself struggling to flesh out a story idea? If yes, can you give us an example of how you moved past it?
I often have trouble fleshing out a story idea. I have begun to think that is just part of every project. When I get what seems to be hopelessly stuck, it is always because I don’t know the characters well enough. The solution is to have what I call a conversation with the character. I do that by asking the character a lot of questions. It usually starts out with something like, “Why won’t you let me move this story along?” The answer is almost always something like, “Let me tell you about myself so you will understand me better.” Then I just let the character talk about anything including childhood, fears, love life, bad habits, family—anything that comes to mind. I fill up several typewritten pages this way, and while some of it has nothing to do with the story, I don’t censor myself. When all that is done, I usually have what I need to move the story forward. Sometimes that means changing the plot.

As a seasoned author, do you still belong to writing groups or have partnerships to help culture an idea? What are your thoughts on critique groups?
The only writing group I currently belong to is the First Friday group that was started years ago by Lois Duncan and Tony Hillerman. It is for published writers, but many in the group are no longer writing regularly. I have belonged to critique groups in the past, and I got a lot of help and inspiration from them. I haven’t belonged to one in several years because it had gotten to the point that I felt I was teaching writing when I went and wasn’t getting the help I needed. I would love to find a group of widely published working writers.

Knowing what you know now, what would you do differently if you started your writing career today?
I would hate to have to start a writing career today because it is so much harder to get published than it was when I started. However, I think I would just do the same thing I did way back then. That is, I would read books that are like what I want to write. I would read how-to books and magazines. I would attend conferences and talk to other writers, editors, and agents. I would just not give up.

What is it that many beginning writers misunderstand about telling a story?
Beginning writers of fiction often don’t understand how intricately character growth and plot are related.

What marketing techniques have been most beneficial to you?
Marketing techniques are tricky in my view. I have tried buying advertising, being on talk shows, talking to various groups to promote my books, and having book signings. They all help to some extent, but I think a writer really needs a publishing house with money for promotion and we don’t all have that. It’s mostly just the top sellers who can take advantage of that these days. I have had the most success with marketing by hiring someone who specializes in marketing and knows where to place the ads. Regrettably, that can be quite expensive.

What’s next on your radar for writing projects?
My new writing project is a family saga. It is proving to be challenging.

Is there anything else you’d like readers to know?
As for anything else I would like writers to know, it is to think about the question on a paperweight my daughter gave me years ago. That is: What would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?


Su Lierz writes dark fiction, short story fiction, and personal essays. Her short story “Twelve Days in April,” written under the pen name Laney Payne, appeared in the 2018 SouthWest Writers Sage Anthology. Su was a finalist in the 2017 and 2018 Albuquerque Museum Authors Festival Writing Contest. She lives in Corrales, New Mexico, with her husband Dennis.




An Interview with Author Donald Willerton

Donald Willerton is the award-winning author of the ten-book Mogi Franklin mystery series for middle-grade readers plus four novels in various genres for adults. His most recent adult release is Death in the Tallgrass: A Young Man’s Journey Through the Western Frontier (July 2023) that has been described as “a beautiful, smart, engaging, enraging book…gentle and thoughtful and fierce.” Look for Don on his website at DonaldWillerton.com and on his Amazon author page.


What would you like readers to know about the story you tell in Death in the Tallgrass?
The novel centers around the kidnapping of a 10-year-old boy, Sam, by Comanche warriors in 1870. Sam is declared dead soon afterwards. Lucy, his six-year-old sister, goes on with a wealthy but rocky life until her son, Harry, in 1904, discovers that the family history may have been a lie and Sam may have lived. Following what he thinks are clues to Sam’s life, Harry goes on a wagon trip that begins in Las Vegas, New Mexico, crosses Texas, turns around at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, and retraces its route until it ends on the Goodnight Ranch, east of Amarillo, on the rim of the Palo Duro Canyon.

This is real country. My childhood home was close to the book’s Beale Wagon Road where it crossed the Canadian River; I have photos of wagon swales almost two hundred years old. I picnicked in the same riverbed where Kit Carson led his troops to the First Battle of Adobe Walls in 1864, and I have stood in the meadow where the Second Battle was fought in 1874. I helped harvest wheat in Oklahoma (west of Fort Sill), climbed in the Wichita Mountains, and have driven through the original Goodnight-managed JA Ranch in the canyons of the Palo Duro. I’ve taken the hair-raising road down the Canadian River Escarpment east of Las Vegas to get to Conchas Lake.

As my young, smart, arrogant, rich Harry Bonner rides on that wagon trip, I hope it’s obvious that falling in love with the country is as fundamental to his growing up as it was to my growing up. My passion for Texas sunsets and rain clouds continues after a lifetime.

What challenges did this work pose for you?
My biggest challenge was learning to stop putting in historical anecdotes about the history of the areas and characters mentioned in the book. I wrote long historical passages only peripherally related to what was happening, and at one point, had to delete thousands of words to clear out the clutter to regain my story. That’s one problem with research — sometimes reality is more interesting than fiction.

Another challenge was developing an authentic-sounding spiritual mysticism surrounding Sam’s life during his seven-year Comanche captivity. That mysticism brings Harry in touch with his uncle and drives home the cruel and unjust life that he fought against, which is key to the plot. In some instances, authenticity took precedence over accuracy, but it’s all close to being real.

This is a departure from your middle-grade mysteries and your three other novels — two that move through history to tell their stories (one with a haunted house as a main character) and a third book that is a contemporary morality tale. What inspired the idea for your newest release?
Three years ago, I read The Unlikely Pilgrimage of Harold Fry by Rachel Joyce. I was dazzled by how rationally a character could unexpectedly go out one day on a walk to the Post Office box and not return until 400 miles later. Along the way, he finds redemption, forgiveness, and the love he had so desperately missed in his life. Joyce’s story gave me the construct of a journey allowing disparate stories to be blended with the main action while preserving the emotional cohesion of the characters. Tied in with echoes of Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry, I had a solid time period and context to make my story about Sam, Lucy, and their dysfunctional family work.

Tell us about your main characters and why you chose them to tell your story.
I created the characters of Sam and Lucy in my seventh middle-grade mystery novel, The Lady in White, about 12 years ago. They existed only as ghostly apparitions, but were key in giving my middle-grade readers the spookiness I desired. For some reason, I couldn’t stop thinking about a ten-year-old boy who grows into a seven-foot Comanche warrior. Sam and his sister reappeared in a more real form in Smoke Dreams, along with the haunted house, but their lives were, again, revealed only in backstory. After failing at writing a sequel to Smoke Dreams, I found a story framework that allowed them to be flesh and blood. My other main characters are Harry, the son of Lucy who sets off on a quest to trail Sam after his capture, and Alice, the lady wagon master who is the trip leader and is responsible for most of Harry’s growing up.

How did Death in the Tallgrass come together after your initial inspiration?
I had the history of the kidnapping from the middle-grade novel, the desire to feature Sam and Lucy in a larger context, and the construct of a journey to build words around, but it was not until I imagined the wagon trip that the basics of the story fell into place. It permitted me to use dreams, backstory narration, and remembrances to characterize the missing thirty-four years of Sam while I described the daily action of Harry and Alice. It took about two years to write and rewrite, including two early submissions to a publisher that I withdrew (ever wake up one day and discover that what you’ve written sounds simply awful?). I finally found my center for the context, actions, crises, and emotions, and produced a workable draft I was happy with. I decided to self-publish, probably because I was too embarrassed to submit a third time.

Through Reedsy, I hired an editorial reviewer who confirmed the strength of the story and its goodness, and the characters with the depth I had intended. He also corrected many errors and story conflicts. After incorporating his suggestions, I hired (again through Reedsy) a copy editor who did an excellent job of helping me clarify, delete, simplify, and resolve all of the loose ends to make the story feel right and complete. I did not finalize the last chapters until after having done both edits, but, by then, I knew exactly what they needed to do. My cover came from a media artist who responded to an internet request through Reedsy. Given a list of my ideas and only a brief description of the novel, she sent an initial design that nailed it on the first try. I was lucky.

Why did you choose Death in the Tallgrass as the title of the book?
I had several initial ideas, but my first official title was The Biggest Cowboy in the World, which I thought was clever, eye-catching, and was drawn from the novel’s text. An early reviewer (an honest, true-to-God, steeped in history, Texas cowgirl with family ties going back to Charlie Goodnight) thought it was silly and would alienate Western-loving readers. She suggested using “tallgrass” in the title which was a common descriptor of grass in the Great Plains. I liked the word, read some about the preserved areas of grasslands in the Plains, and added “death” to make it dramatic.

What was your favorite part of putting this project together?
Editing, to me, is using the authority to change anything I want, with a heavy emphasis on deleting whatever I can’t explain. With my latest book, both editors were so affirming of the storyline that I was overwhelmed by their encouragement. Afterward, editing was like polishing a jewel — every change made it better, and I fell even more in love with what I had written.

Of the fourteen books you’ve written, which one was the most challenging and which was the most enjoyable to write?
The most challenging was The King of Trash. The story addresses the problems of ocean pollution and of homelessness, but by the end of the book, I could propose no meaningful solution for either. Even though the novel has a satisfactory ending, I feel a sense of lost opportunity.

The most enjoyable novel was The Lost Children, the second of my Mogi Franklin Mysteries. Beginning with a naturally endearing incident of three children mysteriously disappearing in 1891 in Ouray, Colorado, I added an old mining story out of the Gold Rush days of California that gave the tale a unique and gripping solution. In the end, combining the emotions and the facts gave me a story that grabs the heart of the reader.

Do you prefer the creating or editing aspect of writing? How do you feel about research?
I like editing. It allows me to identify and confess all the errors I find, and to feel redeemed when I correct them. Research is a natural requirement to make my writing credible and authentic. I’ve never had trouble being appreciative of non-fiction.

Do you have a message or a theme that recurs in your writing?
I’ve always written my middle-grade mysteries as a combination of history, geography, and adventure, hoping the readers will learn about the Southwest as well as being entertained. My adult books have been less deliberate, but I hope my characters show their need to live by grace.

What writing projects are you working on now?
I’ve begun a Dan Brown-ish type of mystery involving the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland and the Shroud of Turin.

Is there anything else you’d like readers to know?
An audiobook (my first) is being produced for Death in the Tallgrass. I’m anxious to hear how it sounds, and how it is received by listeners. I hope those who listen will leave reviews.


KLWagoner150_2KL Wagoner (writing as Cate Macabe) is the author of This New Mountain: a memoir of AJ Jackson, private investigator, repossessor, and grandmother. Kat has a speculative fiction blog at klwagoner.com and writes about memoir at ThisNewMountain.com.




Author Update: William J. Fisher

William J. Fisher retired from one career as an Air Force officer and another as an economic and land development planner, and now enjoys a third career as an author. His newest release, the historical crime novel The Price of the Sky: A Tale of Bandits, Bootleggers, and Barnstormers (April 2023), is based on the true story of “a young aviator turned reluctant bootlegger and bank robber who spends his life seeking redemption, clemency, and romance.” You’ll find Bill on his Amazon author page. Read more about his writing in his 2021 interview for SouthWest Writers.


The Price of the Sky is based on real people and events. What was it about Foster Bedford Jones that intrigued you enough to write a novel based on his life?
My wife Vicki and I knew Bedford Jones in the 70s and 80s until he died in 1990. He was especially a friend of Vicki’s family. Few knew the story of his early life in our small hometown until we had access to his personal papers after he died. We discovered some interesting items in these papers about his past. Years later, I did research on Bedford and found numerous newspaper articles about him, his brothers, and his criminal gang in Texas. I thought his story would make a good crime novel.

What is your main character’s greatest flaw and his most endearing quality?
Bedford’s flaws were that he drank and gambled too much. But his biggest flaw was that he hung out with criminals and bad influences. His most endearing qualities were his skills as a pilot, his love of flying, and his determination.

How did the book come together?
I had some of the source material for many years. When I finished my first book Cruel Road, I started the heavy research on The Price of the Sky, which took about six months. The actual writing took about a year. I had two outside editors: a developmental editor and a copy editor. Editing took about four months. Vicki was my proofreader. I designed the cover.

What were the most challenging aspects of completing this book?
I find that editing and rewriting are the most challenging. Also, since this is mostly a true story, I had to balance the facts with the fiction and drama to make it interesting to the reader.

Any “Oh, wow!” moments while doing research for The Price of the Sky?
There were plenty of “Oh, wow!” moments. When I discovered that Bedford had robbed banks, had belonged to a gang of about twenty robbers, bootleggers, and murderers, and had two brothers that had been in prison for murder and robberies, I thought that nobody in my hometown really knew this man. The other moment was when I discovered he had five wives, and his second wife was a prominent woman with political connections in Indiana who helped him get a pardon from the Governor of Indiana.

What is it about historical fiction that draws you to it as an author?
I got into historical fiction by chance. I wanted to write and had historical material for sources of drama, mystery, action, romance, and adventure. I then used my intuition and imagination to write a good story. Cruel Road is based on the true story of my 6th great grandparents in colonial Pennsylvania. The Price of the Sky is the true story of someone I knew in my hometown in Indiana. Both books are personal.

What writing projects are you working on now?
I have two projects in the early conceptual phases. One is a contemporary novel set in modern Indian Country. I spent nearly 12 years working for two New Mexico Pueblo tribes as a planner and business development specialist. I was exposed to areas of the tribe that many non-Indians know little about. I want to write about native culture and issues on the reservations. There are so many stories in tribes often unknown to the public.

The future book may be science fiction. I have often thought about writing science fiction but have just started to think about plots, settings, characters, etc. I am looking for something unique.


KLWagoner150_2KL Wagoner (writing as Cate Macabe) is the author of This New Mountain: a memoir of AJ Jackson, private investigator, repossessor, and grandmother. Kat has a speculative fiction blog at klwagoner.com and writes about memoir at ThisNewMountain.com.




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